I am always amazed at the number of people who answer questions without knowing what they are talking about.
"mysticjane2Z" gave the best answer, but even she was using inaccurate language.
It is not "North Vietnamese", as Vietnam was LEGALLY ONE country -- therefore a person should say, "a Vietnamese from the north" or "a Tonkinese" which refers to people from the northern area called Tonkin.
"Mysticjane2 Z" is also wrong when she said that Ho Chi Minh was alive when Saigon (actually I call it by its earlier Cambodian name, Prey Nakor) fell is inaccurate. Ho Chi Minh died on 2 September 1969 and was an Annamese (Central Vietnamese).
I suggest people should read some history about Indochina, and certainly the "1954 Geneva Agreements on Indochina", something which the US violated constantly from 1954 until September 1975 (the invasion of Kho Kong island and the Sea port of Kompong Som, both in Cambodia). Those same Geneva Agreements, along with International Law and the UN Charter all state that Vietnam was ONE country, and the "Republic of South Vietnam" was an illegal nation.
All of Vietnam was ruled by the Vietnamese Communist Party from 1 June 1975 onwards, but the economic system was "Socialist". There has only been one communist country, Democratic Kampuchea, from April 15, 1975 until 2 January 1979 while it was ruled by the Khmer Rouge.
The person who stated that over 2 million people were killed in Vietnam following the Communist Party take-over is inaccurate. No-one was executed following the take-over. I believe they are referring to Cambodia where an estimated 1.7 million died of starvation, disease, malnutrition or actually being killed because of political paranoia.
The Vietnam Civil War would have still happened and many Vietnamese would have still died as the North Vietnamese killed all sorts of people including economic and religious leaders. The technology and tactics, including medical technology, from the U.S. involvement from the Vietnam War would also not happened. Also the average trooper that went to Vietnam was richer than the average American. Plus there was a lot of unemployment and inflation compared to the 1980s and 1990s. Nobody knows what the death and injury count would be. The death rate from violence, suicides and accidents (including from disease and drug over doses) was higher in the states during that time.
Absolutely no. When our troops pulled out of Saigon for good because the North Vietnamese were at the embassy gate, we left the country to the North Vietnamese who were ruled by Ho Chi Min a communist being helped by China. He reunited the country and thats where its at today. I cant believe you cant find information.
Here's an interesting viewpoint. See the link below. It should have some facts for you and also give you a side of the argument that you don't hear often, which is both a conservative, and anti-war argument. I don't agree with everything they say, but it's sort of a Journalistic viewpoint, so sometimes I agree alot.
Ummm no- the rules of engagement didnt allow the military to win the war and after 10+ years of not being able to fire until fired upon and not being able to persue or attack the enemy in his strongholds we were ordered to give up and come home.
i belive the anti-war movment succeded in making sure the commies were succesful in their conquest for nam,also a result of 2 million people getting slaughtered!make sure you thank a liberal today,because the blood of 2 million people are on their hands!!!
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I am always amazed at the number of people who answer questions without knowing what they are talking about.
"mysticjane2Z" gave the best answer, but even she was using inaccurate language.
It is not "North Vietnamese", as Vietnam was LEGALLY ONE country -- therefore a person should say, "a Vietnamese from the north" or "a Tonkinese" which refers to people from the northern area called Tonkin.
"Mysticjane2 Z" is also wrong when she said that Ho Chi Minh was alive when Saigon (actually I call it by its earlier Cambodian name, Prey Nakor) fell is inaccurate. Ho Chi Minh died on 2 September 1969 and was an Annamese (Central Vietnamese).
I suggest people should read some history about Indochina, and certainly the "1954 Geneva Agreements on Indochina", something which the US violated constantly from 1954 until September 1975 (the invasion of Kho Kong island and the Sea port of Kompong Som, both in Cambodia). Those same Geneva Agreements, along with International Law and the UN Charter all state that Vietnam was ONE country, and the "Republic of South Vietnam" was an illegal nation.
All of Vietnam was ruled by the Vietnamese Communist Party from 1 June 1975 onwards, but the economic system was "Socialist". There has only been one communist country, Democratic Kampuchea, from April 15, 1975 until 2 January 1979 while it was ruled by the Khmer Rouge.
The person who stated that over 2 million people were killed in Vietnam following the Communist Party take-over is inaccurate. No-one was executed following the take-over. I believe they are referring to Cambodia where an estimated 1.7 million died of starvation, disease, malnutrition or actually being killed because of political paranoia.
The Vietnam Civil War would have still happened and many Vietnamese would have still died as the North Vietnamese killed all sorts of people including economic and religious leaders. The technology and tactics, including medical technology, from the U.S. involvement from the Vietnam War would also not happened. Also the average trooper that went to Vietnam was richer than the average American. Plus there was a lot of unemployment and inflation compared to the 1980s and 1990s. Nobody knows what the death and injury count would be. The death rate from violence, suicides and accidents (including from disease and drug over doses) was higher in the states during that time.
Absolutely no. When our troops pulled out of Saigon for good because the North Vietnamese were at the embassy gate, we left the country to the North Vietnamese who were ruled by Ho Chi Min a communist being helped by China. He reunited the country and thats where its at today. I cant believe you cant find information.
No, the US lost the Vietnam War and as a result the Communist North overrran he Democratic South in 1975.
No - as Vietnam was eventually taken over by the North
Although one could make the argument that US involvement contained the spread of communumism to other areas
Here's an interesting viewpoint. See the link below. It should have some facts for you and also give you a side of the argument that you don't hear often, which is both a conservative, and anti-war argument. I don't agree with everything they say, but it's sort of a Journalistic viewpoint, so sometimes I agree alot.
No, Saigon was overrun and Vietnam is still a communist nation today.
Ummm no- the rules of engagement didnt allow the military to win the war and after 10+ years of not being able to fire until fired upon and not being able to persue or attack the enemy in his strongholds we were ordered to give up and come home.
no, after the war all of vietnam was communist
i belive the anti-war movment succeded in making sure the commies were succesful in their conquest for nam,also a result of 2 million people getting slaughtered!make sure you thank a liberal today,because the blood of 2 million people are on their hands!!!