There are a lot of things that don't make any sense on that web site. I only took a minute to look at it. The instructor and some of the logos on the site use the Korean version of the Ying/Yang symbol. The head guy is wearing a Gi top that has a black stripe on the lapel as some Korean styles do. But then he claims to be an 8th dan, yet calls himself Sempai. Sempai is a Japanese title, and would never be used for someone even close to 8th dan....... He is also wearing a Hanshi belt(red and white panels), which is used in Japanese and Okinawan arts, but not Korean arts.
I have some serious questions about the legitimacy of the guy and his school. I'd bet next weeks groceries that this is a McDojo.
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Check out the page "specials". I can;t believe that this guy is saying that techniques need to be updated to work well today. Tells me that he has no clue what the old traditional martial arts are about. Can't know if you have never been trained. 8th dan my ..............
I might ask what's the high-quality of the guide that you're receiving? Being involved approximately the backside line and seeking to make a benefit isn't a nasty factor. I have obvious a few well, certified teachers near up their colleges through the years considering the fact that they would now not make adequate cash to pay the hire or keep open; so much much less make any variety of a dwelling at it. Being navy retired I do not must however now not everybody is in that role. I even have first had Chuck Norris's brother procedure me and later a consultant of Steven Seagal procedure me again whilst I had my significant studio and present to place their identify over the door for five or 10 K twelve or so years in the past. One of my peers in an extra state did and he misplaced his blouse. I truthfully discover that extra worrying and hokey than what you're regarding right here. At least your teacher has a authentic heritage in BJJ. It feels like they're seeking to capitalize and attraction or seize the more youthful marketplace as good as positioned anything in the market wherein different teachers can do the equal factor. Believe it or now not I have obvious a few conventional methods and significant mucky-mucks present black-belts of their methods to others external of it if they'll difference their association and become a member of them. Of path at a few factor there's a small cost for this as good because the expertise that your pupils may also comply with and pay their annually club expenditures, degree expenditures, checking out expenditures, and many others to that new institution. That is all dealt with and performed at the back of the scenes traditionally and that's much more fallacious I believe that what you're choosing right here. To me it's the requisites of the guide, and the high-quality of pupils which they advertise that determines if this is a McDojo in my brain greater than whatever else. If that teacher produces a top high-quality scholar who can stand on their possess 2 ft and will participate in or execute their artwork at a top stage of ability and with a top stage of expertise is what's fundamental.
Can I have some fries with that black belt in 3 years. No where does it even say what style you will be earning a black belt in. Mixed Martial Arts is not a style, in its current use it is a sport. There are hybrid arts such as Kajukenbo and a few others.
Warning signs to avoid:
* Guarantee of any rank in a certain amount of time - Progression through the ranks just be based on the skill level not how long you have been practicing. Everyone learns at different rates, physical skill develops at different rates.
* 11 or 12 year old full Black belts - The mental aspect is at the very least as important as the physical. 12 year old kids do not as a rule have the wisdom and life experience.
I did check out the special as others suggested and I was surprised. A free special for $24.75 + tax? This kind of advertisement is against the law. You can not advertise something for free and then charge for it. ...and this guy was a policeofficer?
...and is that a samurai in the arizona desert in the picture?
He has no traditional martial arts experience. He lists some boxing experience, that's it. Who promoted him to his rank?
His meridian tapping is highly questionable as well. Traditional chinese medicine takes years to learn. Where did he get his training?
Sorry I got bored reading through all this so I'll leave it at that. It should be enough information for you anyway to make an educated decision.
OK may be I'm a bit harsh. We mix arts at our school. Taekwando and Wing Chung. though we keep them separate with tradition and uniforms.
Still I wouldn't wast my time there. This school "Armentor's"has too many signs of a crack pot martial arts wanna be. In business since 1963. When did he find time to train be in the Korean conflict and be a Golden Gloves contender?
I'm a class of 63 graduate.
8 dan I assume in Taekwando So how does he learn all this other stuff? Who gave him the 8 dan grade?
So he could be legit. Though my money is on this is just a run of the mill non affiliated fast food martial arts hang out.
I would want to visit the place and observe a class and speak with the students and instructors before I dismiss it. Just because it has a cheesy website doesn't mean its a 'McDojo'.
in the "programs and classes" section it says there's a "3 year black belt" program that teaches you "advanced strikes, american boxing, thai boxing, ground and grappling skills"
thats total BS. mixed martial arts, boxing and muay thai don't have belt rankings, karate and jiu jitsu take longer than 3 years to get a black belt. and thats if you focused wholly on them, and not on 3 other areas at the same time
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There are a lot of things that don't make any sense on that web site. I only took a minute to look at it. The instructor and some of the logos on the site use the Korean version of the Ying/Yang symbol. The head guy is wearing a Gi top that has a black stripe on the lapel as some Korean styles do. But then he claims to be an 8th dan, yet calls himself Sempai. Sempai is a Japanese title, and would never be used for someone even close to 8th dan....... He is also wearing a Hanshi belt(red and white panels), which is used in Japanese and Okinawan arts, but not Korean arts.
I have some serious questions about the legitimacy of the guy and his school. I'd bet next weeks groceries that this is a McDojo.
************ EDIT:
Check out the page "specials". I can;t believe that this guy is saying that techniques need to be updated to work well today. Tells me that he has no clue what the old traditional martial arts are about. Can't know if you have never been trained. 8th dan my ..............
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I might ask what's the high-quality of the guide that you're receiving? Being involved approximately the backside line and seeking to make a benefit isn't a nasty factor. I have obvious a few well, certified teachers near up their colleges through the years considering the fact that they would now not make adequate cash to pay the hire or keep open; so much much less make any variety of a dwelling at it. Being navy retired I do not must however now not everybody is in that role. I even have first had Chuck Norris's brother procedure me and later a consultant of Steven Seagal procedure me again whilst I had my significant studio and present to place their identify over the door for five or 10 K twelve or so years in the past. One of my peers in an extra state did and he misplaced his blouse. I truthfully discover that extra worrying and hokey than what you're regarding right here. At least your teacher has a authentic heritage in BJJ. It feels like they're seeking to capitalize and attraction or seize the more youthful marketplace as good as positioned anything in the market wherein different teachers can do the equal factor. Believe it or now not I have obvious a few conventional methods and significant mucky-mucks present black-belts of their methods to others external of it if they'll difference their association and become a member of them. Of path at a few factor there's a small cost for this as good because the expertise that your pupils may also comply with and pay their annually club expenditures, degree expenditures, checking out expenditures, and many others to that new institution. That is all dealt with and performed at the back of the scenes traditionally and that's much more fallacious I believe that what you're choosing right here. To me it's the requisites of the guide, and the high-quality of pupils which they advertise that determines if this is a McDojo in my brain greater than whatever else. If that teacher produces a top high-quality scholar who can stand on their possess 2 ft and will participate in or execute their artwork at a top stage of ability and with a top stage of expertise is what's fundamental.
Can I have some fries with that black belt in 3 years. No where does it even say what style you will be earning a black belt in. Mixed Martial Arts is not a style, in its current use it is a sport. There are hybrid arts such as Kajukenbo and a few others.
Warning signs to avoid:
* Guarantee of any rank in a certain amount of time - Progression through the ranks just be based on the skill level not how long you have been practicing. Everyone learns at different rates, physical skill develops at different rates.
* 11 or 12 year old full Black belts - The mental aspect is at the very least as important as the physical. 12 year old kids do not as a rule have the wisdom and life experience.
* Long term contracts.
* required testing at pre set intervals.
I did check out the special as others suggested and I was surprised. A free special for $24.75 + tax? This kind of advertisement is against the law. You can not advertise something for free and then charge for it. ...and this guy was a policeofficer?
...and is that a samurai in the arizona desert in the picture?
He has no traditional martial arts experience. He lists some boxing experience, that's it. Who promoted him to his rank?
His meridian tapping is highly questionable as well. Traditional chinese medicine takes years to learn. Where did he get his training?
Sorry I got bored reading through all this so I'll leave it at that. It should be enough information for you anyway to make an educated decision.
Run,
Don't walk.
OK may be I'm a bit harsh. We mix arts at our school. Taekwando and Wing Chung. though we keep them separate with tradition and uniforms.
Still I wouldn't wast my time there. This school "Armentor's"has too many signs of a crack pot martial arts wanna be. In business since 1963. When did he find time to train be in the Korean conflict and be a Golden Gloves contender?
I'm a class of 63 graduate.
8 dan I assume in Taekwando So how does he learn all this other stuff? Who gave him the 8 dan grade?
So he could be legit. Though my money is on this is just a run of the mill non affiliated fast food martial arts hang out.
It has all the telltale signs of a McDojo, however it also has a few things on there that I would say look a little bit promising.
Go in there and check it out before you make your final judgement. If it's the only martial arts school for 120 miles, it's better than nothing.
Look for full contact sparring, if it's got that, it's a big step in the right direction.
Has all the signs and more of a mcdojo...that place would be at the top of my BS radar right under the ATA.
I would want to visit the place and observe a class and speak with the students and instructors before I dismiss it. Just because it has a cheesy website doesn't mean its a 'McDojo'.
Any place that promises a blackbelt in a certain amount of time, there is 99.999% chance that its a McDojo.
in the "programs and classes" section it says there's a "3 year black belt" program that teaches you "advanced strikes, american boxing, thai boxing, ground and grappling skills"
thats total BS. mixed martial arts, boxing and muay thai don't have belt rankings, karate and jiu jitsu take longer than 3 years to get a black belt. and thats if you focused wholly on them, and not on 3 other areas at the same time