If non-existence was to be non-existent its existent is that of a non-existent existence, contradicting its existence as non-existence, being existence, so is non-existence a paradox?
I would agree because by admitting that there can be a non-existence you are contradicting yourself by offering that non-existence a form of existence in the 1st dimension
Non-existence could be an idea of something that might exist; God for instance. However, to talk about nothingness does seem paradoxical because 'nothing' cannot exist, and yet we do use it as though it does. Nothingness is as it was for you before you were conceived, but there was no you then to experience nothingness. I think non-existence qualifies as one definition of a paradox:
>an apparently sound statement or proposition that leads to a logically unacceptable conclusion< and not as the other definition >a seemingly absurd statement or proposition that may be true<... from the Oxford Concise Dictionary.
A "paradox" is an existent only in the world of ideas. It does not exist in a reified state. A paradox is a mistake in one's premises, just as a contradiction is.
The paradox in the statement "'This statement is false' is only relevant to understanding logic in context. First, the canons of logic are for human conceptual thought. We formulate conceptual ideas, beliefs, and claims as propositions: conjunctions of concepts that meaningfully ascribe an identity to an existent. We express propositions as sentences and statements, but a sentence is defined by its grammatical structure and the classes of words it employs. Yet meaning is more than accordance with grammar. Thus, there are sentences with verb and noun that do not express meaning.
"This statement is false" is an arbitrary (i.e., meaningless) statement (although a specious one) because it ascribes the identity "false" to an existent that need not possess either truth or falsity. Truth and falsity are traits of propositions and refer to whether the proposition corresponds to reality. The sentence "this statement is false" however, does not refer to a proposition. One might as well say something like "Jim has a high frequency" (frequency being a trait of waves, not humans), and make as much sense. The identity ascribed is not appropriate to the existent. It happens that "this statement" is not the kind of statement that expresses a meaningful proposition."
No, You will only tie yourself up in semantics with this one...
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Now:
In reference to a previous comment on a question
You are wrong about your assessment of consciousness...
Your Question:
Is consciousness a manifestation of matter?
Is that which is independent arise from that which is dependent upon it?
My answer
Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
No matter is a manifestation of consciousness...
Asker's Comment: Matter is consciousness as all is one existence.
Yes,
We are all intertwined within existence
however...
One does not need
the Physical for Consciousness
but,
the Physical needs Consciousness to exist...
When the consciousness leaves the body for the last time death of the physical body occurs.
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When one just has OBE's (Out of Body Experiences) the body does not die because the Mind, not to be confused with the Physical Brain, has gone exploring on it's own and will return.
The Book:
The Afterlife Experiments :
Breakthrough Scientific Evidence of Life After Death
Gary E. R. Schwartz
About the Author
Dr. Gary Schwartz is director of the Laboratory for Advances in Consciousness and Health (formerly known as Human Energy Systems Laboratory) at the University of Arizona. He is currently a professor of psychology, medicine, neurology, psychiatry, and surgery at the University of Arizona. He is a graduate of Harvard University, and has taught at both Harvard and Yale, holding the positions of professor of psychiatry and psychology for nearly three decades. He has published more than 400 academic papers.
your non-existence is not a paradox. once you are created you exist until you die when you cease to exist. unless you have a soul, then you still exist.
but the existence of the UNIVERSE, now that's a paradox. where did it come from? was it created? did it just appear out of nowhere? if it was created then who created the creater, and so on. where did the original creator or original event when created the original universe come? IT MAKES NO SENSE
It doesnt matter. Because non-existence is not a reality; that is, it does not exist. To consider anything about it, or its consequences, is strictly hypothetical reasoning. It has no implications to us. You can invent any hypothetical world in your head that you want to that leads to a contradiction. But such contradictions are hypothetical, not actual.
There is no such thing as non-existence. There are, however, modes of existence. There is no santa claus in the world we perceive with our senses but he does , I suppose, exist in our imaginations.
Anything ever thought of exists in some form.Besides,it's like saying,"don't think of the color red".And you always think of red.So to say 'it doesn't exist' actually means it does.
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I would agree because by admitting that there can be a non-existence you are contradicting yourself by offering that non-existence a form of existence in the 1st dimension
Non-existence could be an idea of something that might exist; God for instance. However, to talk about nothingness does seem paradoxical because 'nothing' cannot exist, and yet we do use it as though it does. Nothingness is as it was for you before you were conceived, but there was no you then to experience nothingness. I think non-existence qualifies as one definition of a paradox:
>an apparently sound statement or proposition that leads to a logically unacceptable conclusion< and not as the other definition >a seemingly absurd statement or proposition that may be true<... from the Oxford Concise Dictionary.
A "paradox" is an existent only in the world of ideas. It does not exist in a reified state. A paradox is a mistake in one's premises, just as a contradiction is.
"Most paradoxes — but not all — involve contradictions; for such cases, we often use the word “contradiction“ as well." http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradoxes-contem...
The paradox in the statement "'This statement is false' is only relevant to understanding logic in context. First, the canons of logic are for human conceptual thought. We formulate conceptual ideas, beliefs, and claims as propositions: conjunctions of concepts that meaningfully ascribe an identity to an existent. We express propositions as sentences and statements, but a sentence is defined by its grammatical structure and the classes of words it employs. Yet meaning is more than accordance with grammar. Thus, there are sentences with verb and noun that do not express meaning.
"This statement is false" is an arbitrary (i.e., meaningless) statement (although a specious one) because it ascribes the identity "false" to an existent that need not possess either truth or falsity. Truth and falsity are traits of propositions and refer to whether the proposition corresponds to reality. The sentence "this statement is false" however, does not refer to a proposition. One might as well say something like "Jim has a high frequency" (frequency being a trait of waves, not humans), and make as much sense. The identity ascribed is not appropriate to the existent. It happens that "this statement" is not the kind of statement that expresses a meaningful proposition."
http://www.atlassociety.org/logic-and-paradox
It took thousands of years before someone came up with the concept of the number 'Zero'.
Since then things have moved on and most people can understand basic maths, including using Zero.
There is no paradox in having nothing of an item or value, or the concept something simply not existing.
No, You will only tie yourself up in semantics with this one...
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Now:
In reference to a previous comment on a question
You are wrong about your assessment of consciousness...
Your Question:
Is consciousness a manifestation of matter?
Is that which is independent arise from that which is dependent upon it?
My answer
Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
No matter is a manifestation of consciousness...
Asker's Comment: Matter is consciousness as all is one existence.
Yes,
We are all intertwined within existence
however...
One does not need
the Physical for Consciousness
but,
the Physical needs Consciousness to exist...
When the consciousness leaves the body for the last time death of the physical body occurs.
----------
When one just has OBE's (Out of Body Experiences) the body does not die because the Mind, not to be confused with the Physical Brain, has gone exploring on it's own and will return.
The Book:
The Afterlife Experiments :
Breakthrough Scientific Evidence of Life After Death
Gary E. R. Schwartz
About the Author
Dr. Gary Schwartz is director of the Laboratory for Advances in Consciousness and Health (formerly known as Human Energy Systems Laboratory) at the University of Arizona. He is currently a professor of psychology, medicine, neurology, psychiatry, and surgery at the University of Arizona. He is a graduate of Harvard University, and has taught at both Harvard and Yale, holding the positions of professor of psychiatry and psychology for nearly three decades. He has published more than 400 academic papers.
your non-existence is not a paradox. once you are created you exist until you die when you cease to exist. unless you have a soul, then you still exist.
but the existence of the UNIVERSE, now that's a paradox. where did it come from? was it created? did it just appear out of nowhere? if it was created then who created the creater, and so on. where did the original creator or original event when created the original universe come? IT MAKES NO SENSE
Consider this line of reasoning:
It doesnt matter. Because non-existence is not a reality; that is, it does not exist. To consider anything about it, or its consequences, is strictly hypothetical reasoning. It has no implications to us. You can invent any hypothetical world in your head that you want to that leads to a contradiction. But such contradictions are hypothetical, not actual.
Only if non-existence was non-existent which it isn't. The notion of existence automatically brings into existence the notion of non-existence.
There is no such thing as non-existence. There are, however, modes of existence. There is no santa claus in the world we perceive with our senses but he does , I suppose, exist in our imaginations.
Anything ever thought of exists in some form.Besides,it's like saying,"don't think of the color red".And you always think of red.So to say 'it doesn't exist' actually means it does.